Yeyyy... Welcome to the wiki Ric ;-) Just added you as Sysop & beau.
--Olajide 02:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Welcome, Ric, hope to be able to have a nice chat with you sometime :)
MrX, how about you put a signature so he knows??? lol. am umm Ric, do you think we should use the version number in the title? I think its better if we dont because if anything changes, it will most likely be updated on the wiki so i dont think we need to use the version numbers. Oh yeah.. categories! lol. --Olajide 08:48, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Olajide, well I have made a start with transferring pages as you can see from the number of edits have not mastered it yet. Anyway I have popped a new battery in the sat-nav and slowing finding my way around.
Regarding the version number before the release of 4 if you upgrade 3.5 just up the number to 3.6 will avoid any confusion. There’s a question will there be a 3.6?
Ric 20:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Maybe someday I'll regret answering this on behalf of Olajide, but from what I've heard, I don't think there'll be a 3.6 :)
By the way, hi Ric :)
I guess one of the reasons why Olajide decided on such a big version jump was that 4.0 will come with Apache 2.2 and maybe because he also has some big plans for the Admin Panel :D
Thanks for that bit of info. In all honesty I have hacked 3.5 to death on more than one occasion (ok out of its design spec) but straight out of the box it works fine so probably no need for 3.6.
I think 4 needs to have a little more headroom, by this I mean increase in size with more functionality but not bloat ware. An interesting balancing act! When’s Olajide going to join the circus or his he already a member?
Ric 21:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey Ric, as MrX said, there will be no 3.6. We are maing a big jump to 4.0 from 3.5, due to most of the reason MrX also mentions ;-) lol. And umm, i am already a member of the circus. lol. Uniform Circus.. :) and yeah, everything takes time, and nothing is ever perfect, so everything is good Ric. I like what you've done so far and welcome to the Wiki. :) --Olajide 22:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I guess 4.0 will get a size increase, due to the fact that the Apache 2.2 binaries Olajide will be using is compiled with VC 2008 (aka VC9, released in November last year) and has OpenSSL enabled. So, we'll probably need to add the VC9 runtime(s) (unless their improvement in performance doesn't involve these) and OpenSSL DLLs to avoid some crazy DLL Hell ;)
MrX, Ric is the one who compiled the Apache 2.2 Migrate. He is the developer in charge of that section of 4.0. I really havent asked him which one he used... --Olajide 03:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Ok, Olajide, maybe Ric should get a custom build of Apache with the version reply edited out :D
Anyway, Ric, have you tested your UniCenter Python plugin to see if it would run Python programs like MoinMoin? Olajide: How about a mod_fcgid plugin for running Perl and Python?
<RMS>Ric: I also noticed that on your New Users Python Intro page you mentioned that you like the GNU Free Documentation License, you do know that that's what this wiki uses, right?</RMS>
Wow, this talk page has really grown in the past 24 hours :D
Security: Being new to the Wiki I am looking at security and how to protect pages. I have never knowingly published any files containing a virus or malicious content. Hence on the Wiki I will lock down two types of pages any containing an MD5 check sum along with the associated downloadable and any text file pertaining to a batch file. My tests confirm this is possible OK nothing is 100% secure that’s the real world. It’s all down to a reasonable degree of confidence.
Ric 22:51, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Security: Hi Olajide thanks for the PM. What you propose is ideal from my point of view. I can lock down pages containing MD5 check sums more importantly the exe files (I like 7Z) cannot be tampered with. It’s not just about security but also user confidence when using the Wiki. Hey one added bonus no changes to the Wiki configs.
When you have it in place I will upload the pages that require exe files.
Ric 22:21, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Ric. May I know where you're getting the Apache 2.2 binaries (for 4.0) from?
Hi I am not sure what Olajide has planed to use on 4 however the binaries I hacked around were:
Apache 2.2.8 Downloaded from: http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi Version: apache_2.2.8-win32-x86-openssl-0.9.8g.msi
Ric 15:52, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm guessing that those were the ones you used for your mini servers, right?
Well, this is a little strange, just read Olajide's message posted on 03:40, 23 May 2008 a few lines above. When I talked about the Apache 2.2 binaries, Olajide said that you were in charged of that, so I guess it is up to you to decide :)
Well, the binaries I mentioned above, while talking to Olajide are from http://www.apachelounge.com/download/, there are some module binaries there as well.
Since Olajide has put you in charged of this, I'm wondering if you have any comments on those binaries. I am also interested to know if you plan to include mod_ssl together with 4.0, or whether you would prefer to distribute that as a separate plugin.
MrX, stop harassing Ric. Let him do what he has to do.. lol. --Olajide 08:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I was just trying to have a meaningful conversation :(